Church for the Rest of Us

Episode #211
December 11, 2020
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What is a “normal” church? On this episode, Josh and Sam join Jimmy Scroggins of Family Church to discuss why every church is at least a little weird. All churches are messy! It’s normal to be messy, but good shepherds will lead their people through the mess. The church you are in now is your “normal.” It is not helpful to be obsessed with being like someone else or some other church. Josh, Sam, and Jimmy share their normal struggles and also some pieces of encouragement. Also, check out to sign up for a conference for “normal” church pastors and leaders. 

Located in Fort Worth, Texas, Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary is committed to providing theological education for individuals engaging in Christian ministry. Southwestern Seminary offers a variety of degree programs at the undergraduate, masters, and doctoral levels. Just this year, our friends at Southwestern launched new 8-week online classes, which means you don’t have to wait until the next full semester to begin. If you are interested in taking the next step in ministry, visit to learn more about how you can get started.  

You need to learn more about two great resources from Church Initiative. The makers of GriefShare and DivorceCare offer a team of experienced coaches. They equip your church members to get the program started—so it’s not on your plate.

Pastors are saying these are among the easiest, most effective ministries they’ve ever offered. Check out GriefShare and DivorceCare.